The Language of the Thracians – Geographical names (Ivan Duridanov)

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Geographical names (A – Z)

Achelos, Acheln (Leo Gramm., Georg. Amartol., Georg. Mon.; AD 917) – small river near the town ofAnchialo (Pomorie) on theBlack Sea. The name is explained from the IE *kel- ‘water’, preserved in the Lith. hydronym Akkl (lake). It is also compared with the Lydian river name of Achéles, Akéles, the Phrygian akala ‘water’. As identical are given also the name of Achelos of five rivers inGreece. The same Thracian name is hidden in the name of the smallBlack Sea town ofAnchialo, attested by Strabo under the form of Anchiál and by Apian as Anchíalos, which is in fact a Grecized form of the Thracian name, linked with the Greek word anchíalos ‘coastal’. More

The Giants Gog and Magog – Jewish terror

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Gog and Magog figures based on the British mythology, located in the Royal Arcade, Melbourne

The giants, a titanic generation, born from Terra (also known as Gaia), and Uran (Uranus), was a gorgeous, violent and non religious people, having no belief in gods, as being themselves of divine essence.

The giants were by excellency a  mountain’s people (Uran is the sinnonymous  of mountain, or  the Mountain’s Man).

In their war with Zeus, they built mountains over mountains  to get to Olympus, to God’s Palace, the huge Atlas trembled when they attacked, and although the Gods, headed by Zeus, pounced over the Giants, throwing lightings, they still weren’t capable to overcome them, and Hercules himself had to intervene to get them.

The Giants County was on the old Dacia territory, near the saint Oceanos Potamos River (Danube), where, from the same parents, Gaia ans Uran, their bigger brothers, the Titans, were born.

Often, the Romans used comparrations as the fight between Gods, Titans and Giants, with the wars against the Dacians, the Romans calling themselves the winning Gods over Titans, Giants, and then  the Dacians.

The Giants were mentioned also into the Jewish traditions, being known as Gog and Magog, as Ezekiel  mentioned.

In one of his stories, the prophet and the storyteller Ezekiel threatened the Jewish people that Jehova will bring as ruller over them the King Gog from Magog, with his beautiful army, armed with  swords, spears, bolts , shields and helmets.

They, coming from North, riding on horses, will rush as a storm over Israel, to steal and destroy it. They will scour the land in triumph, will trap down the Jews, and then, after fulfilling their mission, will be all destroyed by the anger of The Sky.

Ezekiel’s prophecy referred , no doubt, to the old traditions about the great war between Giants, Titans  and Gods, like when the Giants and Titans chased the gods all the way to Egypt.

The Jeremiah prophet , that lived not long before Ezekiel , talks about the same people, whom he simply calls them as  the “gentium praedo”, that will come from a far away land, from North, from the bottom of the Earth. It will be a courageous people of archers, old and strong, talking a language unknown to the Jews, they are a big people, cruel and ruthless, with their voices moaning like the sea.

They are coming on horses faster than the vultures , all in a row, prepared for big invasion war. They will destroy Jerusalem, like Nabucodonosor, will destroy all of Juda’s strongholds, transforming  the country of the Jews in desert, so that no man will be left in Jerusalem, and all the Jews will end up in slavery.

From here we took the name Lucifer-Luciferis (daystar), which was given to Nabucodonosor by Christians.

With six centuries before Ezekiel, also John the Theologian write about Gog and Magog, in his Book of Revelation.

Speaking about the last time of the humanity, John says that after 1000 years of prison for the serpentine dragon Typhon (Devil, Satan, Set, Ahriman etc) the dragon will be released, he will rebuild his strength and he will lead at war the people of Gog and Magog, which are splitted in four corners of the world and whose number is as the sand of the sea.

The Book of Revelation consider that all pelasgian tribes descended from Gog and Magog, divided in different parts of the world. Those people will run over the face of the Earth and they will siege the beloved city of Jerusalem, and they will be punished by the heavenly fire (God of the Jews, Yahweh).

In The Book of Revelation we can find a copy of the old Jewish traditions, written by the prophets Ezekiel and Jeremiah, with many years before Christianity.

Under the name Gog and Magog, the ancient people understand Getae and Massagetae Thracian tribes.

The names Goga, Gugu, Gugă, Gogă and Gogan are also used today by Romanian peasants, especially in mountain regions.

From the Sibylline Oracles result that the countries where the tribes of Gog and Magog live, are in the northern part of Thrace.

Other traditions about Gog and Magog are presented in the epic legends of the Alexander the Great. The country of the tribes Gog and Magog is described as wild and inhospitable, being subjected to Boreas wind (Northern wind), rain and Northern frost. According to the epic legends of Alexander, the tribes of Gog and Magog invade Southern regions and they closed Alexander in Macedonia, making him prisoner, but Alexander managed to escape and to gather a great army. After that, he will conquer the Northern regions of Gog and Magog (Country of Gog and Magog).

Other ancient legend tell us that tribes of Gog and Magog were under the rule of Popa Ion, a prince who rule also in Asia.

Undoubtedly that here we have an old reminiscence about the adorable Pelasgian King Ianus (Janus, the god of gates, doors, doorways, beginnings and endings) which rule over the Arimi tribe, at the North of Oceanos Potamos (Danube), before moving to Italy. His face is also present on the old coins of Dacia.

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Les Gèto-Daces “Les plus justes et braves des Thraces”

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Strabon (en grec ancien Στράϐων / Strábôn, « qui louche », en latin Strabo), né à Amasée en Cappadoce (actuelle Amasya en Turquie) vers 57 av. J.-C., mort entre 21 et 25 ap. J.-C., est un géographe grec.

Plusieurs voix qui soutiennent qu’elles représentes l’”histoire” de notre genre multimillénaire, évoquent dans un écho qui se fait senti de plus en plus le fait que les gèto-daces ont été polygames, qu’ils ont mangé de la viande et le plus grave-qu’ils ont consumé importantes quantités d’alcool.

Pour démontrer une fois pour tous que les gèto-daces, comme les genres germaniques, celtiques, baltiques, et aussi comme les tribus d’origine thrace, ne consommaient pas d’alcool parce qu’ils ne connaissaient pas une boisson alcoolique hors celle des dieux «la boisson des dieux » appelée hydromel (Hidromiel en espagnol, Idromele en italienne, Hidromel en português, Mead en anglais , Miod en russe, polonais, norvégienne, suédois, danois, Med en ukrainien, Met en allemand, Medovina en tchécoslovaque, sarb-croate et slovène , Ezti-ur en basque , Sima en finnois, Hydromeli en latin classique, Midus en lettone), on va citer une importante source historique du début de I-er siècle a.Hr.

La plus importante épreuve est trouvée dans la « Géographie » de Strabon, le VII-e livre, chapitre III:

« […] Les helléniques considéraient les gètes thraces. Ils habitaient les deux rives du Istru, je me refaire aux gètes mais aussi aux mysiens. Les derniers semblaient aux thraces, mais en présent ils s’appellent moessi; des eux viennent les mysiens d’aujourd’hui qui vivent entre les lydiens, féringiens et troyens.

En outre, les féringiens sont birigi, de genre thraces, le même que les mygdons, les bebrycs, les maedobithyns, les bithyns et les thyns, et je pense que les mariandyns aussi.

Tous ont quitté deffinitivement l’Europe, mais les mysiens ont resté avec les autres thraces.

Mon opinion est que Poseidonios a la bonne présupposition comme que Homère appelle par ce nom les mysiens dans l’Europe (je fais référence à ceux de Thrace) quand il dit :

Ses yeux brillants il les retourna pour voir

Pays occupé de thraces, de ceux qui brident les chevaux

Et de mysiens, qui de proche se battent. […]

Poseidonios dit que les mysiens évitaient les produits de viande pour de motifs religieuses, et à cause de ça ils ne s’occupaient pas de l’élevage des animaux. Ils mangeaient du miel, du lait et du fromage, vivant en paix et pour ça ils sont appelés pieux par rapport aux dieux et capnobates.

Ils sont aussi des thraces qui vivent sans femmes; ils s’appellent fondateurs.

Ils sont considérés saints du fait de leur honnêteté et vivent sans peur.

Tous ceux sont appelés par Homère « les glorieux traient de juments, mangeurs du lait, sans bétail et les plus justes des hommes ».

Ils sont surnommés « sans vie » surtout parce qu’ils vivent sans femmes, et Homère considère que le veuvage est une vie vécue seulement à demi, comment le poète appelle dans la maison de Protesilaos la « démi-vie » parce qu’il était veuf :

Les mysiens sont appellés « lutteurs de près » parce qu’ils sont imbattable, étant des guerriers sans peur.

Dans le XIII-ième livre (de Iliade) il faudrait d’être écrit « les moesis, lutteurs de près » à la place de mysiens (dite Poseidonios).

Mais, sans erreur, il est audacieux de changer le texte du Homère, considéré bon le long des années passés. En effet, il est plus plausible qu’ils ont été nommés du début mysiens et qu’en présent le nom est changé en moesi. Et l’épithète «sans vie» peut être compris au sens de « veufs » qu’au sens d’« affamés » ou « avec les maisons en charrette ». […]

La pratique pythagorique de s’abstenir de la viande a été gardée comme une disposition du Zamolxis. […]

Du hippemolgs slaves, buveurs du lait, des mysis

Qui se battent de près, et des abis pleins de justice. […]

De l’information qui dit que :

“En court temps Deceneu lui-même a été regardé comme pénétré du souffle divin, comment on a dit quand on a parlé de Zamolxis. Et, en signe de soumission, les gètes se sont fléchi à couper la vigne et de vivre sans vin […] ” la location de ces gètes ne peut pas être précisée, le même qu’on peut pas dire s’ils sont de tarabostes ou de comati.

Probablement qu’une partie de l’aristocratie gèto-dace a pris de voies négatives, à cause de la vilaine influence de grecques et romans, où peut être que seulement les gèto-daces sont restés dans les cites de la Mer Noire pour administrer le territoire conquis par l’empereur Burebista ont commencé à pratiquer l’acte honteux ,humiliant pour les thraces du nord.

Je veux préciser qu’ainsi les odrysis que d’autre tribus du sud d’origine thrace, consommaient du vin et diverses substances hallucinogènes comme les champignons magiques, la chanvre orientale ou même des opiacées.

Tous ces faits sont apparus tardivement à cause de l’influence hellène et plus tard de celle romane, mais aussi de diverses cultures orientales mythraices.

En conclusion, les gèto-daces et les moesis, carps et costobocs, et tous les tribus « barbares » du nord de Istru, ne consommaient pas d’alcool, mais que d’hydromel comme tous les barbares nordiques.

Ces affirmations tendancieuses lancés à l’adresse de nos ancêtres sont des attaques qui visent la dégénération de notre grand genre gèto-dace, les plus justes et braves de thraces!

Nos ennemis, polygames et grands consommateurs d’alcool et narcotiques, semblent d’être envieux de nos ancêtres et de leur vie sacre, comme de leur origine divine.

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La statue de Burebista à Calarasi

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La statue de Burebista à Orăştie

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La statue de Décébale à Deva

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Décébale sur la Colonne de Trajan

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Daces sur la Colonne de Trajan et Daces étendard

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A Thracian lunisolar calendar

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A THRACIAN LUNISOLAR CALENDAR – Nikolai Sivkov

http://www.space.bas.bg/astro/Rogen2004/Oth-6.pdf

Гети и Даки “Най-смели и Става тракийско племе”

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Все повече и повече гласове претендиращи да представят “историята” на нашата мулти-хилядолетна нация,пораждат отклик от това,което все повече се чувства и чува,че Гети-Даки били полигамни хора,ядящи месо и най-лошото – били големи консуматори на алкохол.

За да докажем веднъж за винаги,че Гети-Даки, Германите, Кельты and прибалтийски републики, като други Тракийски племена,не употребявали алкохол,просто защото не познавали друга алкохолна напитка с изключение на “Напитката на Бог” наречена медовина (Hydromel на френски, на испански – Hidromiel, Idromele на италиански, hydromel на португалски, английски -Mead, Мёд на руски, полски, норвежки, шведски, датски, Med на украински, на немски -Met, Medovina наЧешкият езикиСловашкият, Сръбският, Хърватският -ur Ezti Баски, Sima на фински, Hydromeli на латински, Midus на латвийски) ще цитираме важен исторически източник от 1-ви век сл.Хр.

Най-важното доказателство можем да намерим в “География” на Страбон и по-конкретно Книга 6,Глава 3:

“[…]Гърците смятали,че Гатите били Тракийско племе.Те живеели на двата бряга на Дунава.Имам предвид Гатите и Мизи също.Мизи също били Тракийско племе но днешно време те са известни под името Мизи.Произходът на Мизи е от мези,който живеят сред Lydians, Фриги и Троянскатаетнос.

Фриги по свое му са Бригите (Briges), Тракийско племе,както и Mygdones, Bebrycians, Витините, Tините и може би Mariandynii също.

Всичко от тях бързо напуснали Европа,но Мизи останали заедно със други Тракийци.Моето мнение е,че Poseidonios правилно е предполагал,че Омир е посочва с това име Мизи, в Европа (Искам предвид тези от Тракия) когато казва:

“Неговите пламтящи очи се обърнаха за видят

Страната на Траките населена от тези,които яздят sirepii

И Mysians, които себорят помежду си от близко разстояние.” […]

Посейдон казва, че Мизи не използвали местни продукти поради определена религиозна вяра,просто защото те не отглеждали животни.Те се изхранвали с мед,мляко и сирене,живеейки сами,като били наричани религиозни мъже.

Имало Траки ,които живеели без момичета,те били наричани Основатели.Те били считани за светци,поради тяхната чест и живот без страх.Поетът Омир ги нарекъл “свещени доячи на кобила,които пиели мляко,без живот и най-коректните хора”.Те са наречени “без живот” особено защото живели без момичета.

Самият Омир казва,че овдовяването е половин живот,като нарича домът на Протесилай “половин” само защото той е бил вдовец.

Мизи са наречени “бойци от близко разстояние”,защото били отлични и непобедими войни. В Илиада трябва да бъде написано ” Мизи, бойци от близко разстояние”, вместо Мизи (претендира Посейдон).

Но със сигурност е дръзко да се променя текста на Омир,считан за добър толкова много години.В действителност,много по-вероятно е те да са били определени от самото начало като Мизи и сега те са променили името си на Мизи.

Епитетът “без живот” по-скоро би имал значението на “вдовец” отколкото “unfeeder” или “with houses on carts.” […]

А практиката на Питагор,която подкрепя въздържанието от месо,остава за тях като диктат от Залмоксис. […]

Относно информацията, която ни казва:

“Накратко Deceneu само по себе си бил считан като Бог,както казах когато говорех за Залмоксис.И в знак на подчинение Катите били убедени да откажат виното и да живеят без него […]”

Не можем да определим точно местонахождение на тези Гети,т.к не знаем дали текстът се отнася за Tarabostes или Comati.

Вероятно част от великодушието на Гети-Даки е станало негативно,но просто заради подло римско и гръцки влияние или може би просто защото Гети-Даки,които останали в крепостите покрай Черно море за да управляват териториитезавладени от император Burebista започнал тази срамна практика,унизителна практика за северните тракийски племена.

Бих желал да спомена,че Odrysians и други южни тракийски племена,пият вино и употребяват различни халюциногеннивещества като магически гъби, коноп (марихуана, канабис), или дори и ориенталски опиати.Всички тези факти дошли по -късно,поради гръцко,а по-късно и римско влияние и различни ориенталски въздействия.

Следователно Гети-Даки и Мизи, Carpiani и Costobocii, и всички “варварски” племена на север от Дунав, не употребявали алкохол, освен медовина като всички “варвари” от севера.Тези твърденияпуснати срещу нашите предци са само няколко атаки,които имат единствено намерение:дегенерация на нашите велики и божествени предци – Гети-Даки:

“Най-смелото и честно тракийското племе”!

Нашите полигамни врагове,големи консуматори на алкохол и наркотици,като че ли са завиждали на нашите предци и техния свещен живот, както и за техния божествен произход.

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“Залмоксис” Детайл от стенопис в гробницата от Александрово, Хасковско, IV в. пр. Хр.

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Дечебал (на румънски: Decebal) или Децеба́л (на латински: Decebalus) е владетел на даките в периода 86 — 106 г. Има предположения, че Дечебал не е собствено име, а означава “цар” или “княз”.

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Гети и Даки-Най-смели и Става тракийско племе

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За да докажем веднъж за винаги,че Гети-Даки, Германите, Кельты and прибалтийски републики, като други Тракийски племена,не употребявали алкохол,просто защото не познавали друга алкохолна напитка с изключение на “Напитката на Бог” наречена медовина (Hydromel на френски, на испански – Hidromiel, Idromele на италиански, hydromel на португалски, английски -Mead, Мёд на руски, полски, норвежки, шведски, датски, Med на украински, на немски -Met, Medovina наЧешкият езикиСловашкият, Сръбският, Хърватският -ur Ezti Баски, Sima на фински, Hydromeli на латински, Midus на латвийски) ще цитираме важен исторически източник от 1-ви век сл.Хр.

Най-важното доказателство можем да намерим в “География” на Страбон и по-конкретно Книга 6,Глава 3:

“[…]Гърците смятали,че Гатите били Тракийско племе.Те живеели на двата бряга на Дунава.Имам предвид Гатите и Мизи също.Мизи също били Тракийско племе но днешно време те са известни под името Мизи.Произходът на Мизи е от мези,който живеят сред Lydians, Фриги и Троянскатаетнос. More

Geto-Dacians “The most Brave and Fair Thracian tribe”

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More and more voices claiming to represent “history” of our multi-millennial nation, evokes an echo in what is increasingly felt and heard, that the Geto-Dacians were polygamist people, eating meat and the worst of all, were high consumers of alcohol.

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To demonstrate once for all that the Geto-Dacian, Germanic, Celtic and Baltic people, like other Thracian tribes, were not consumers of alcohol, just because they diddnt knew any alcoholic beverage outside of “The Drink of Gods” “called mead (Hydromel in French, in Spanish Hidromiel, Idromele in Italian, hydromel in Portuguese, English Mead, miód in Russian, Polish, Norwegian, Swedish, Danish, Med in Ukrainian, German Met, Medovina in ceho-Slovak, Serbo-Croatian and Slovenia-ur Ezti in Basque, Sima in Finnish, Hydromeli in classical Latin, Midus in Latvian) we will quote an important historical source of the I century AD.

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Valkyrie Bearing a Drinking Horn

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Ninth-century picture stone from the island of Gotland, Sweden. A valkyrie with a drinking-horn greets Odin as he arrives at Valhalla astride Sleipnir, his eight-legged horse, on which he will fight at Ragnarok.

The most important evidence we find in “Geography” of Strabon, specifically in the Book VII of Chapter III:

“[…] Greeks considered that Getae were a Thracian tribe. They lived on both banks of Danube, I mean both Getae and Mysians as well. Mysians were Thracians too but in present time, their name is Moesians; the origins of Mysians are from Moesians, which live among Lydians, Phrygians and Trojans.

Phrygians themselves are Bryges (Briges), a Thracian tribe, like Mygdones, Bebrycians, Bithyni, Thyni and maybe Mariandynii too.

All of them left quick Europe, but Mysians remained on place together with the other Thracians.

My opinion is that Poseidonios correctly assumed that Homer designates with this name, Mysians, in Europe (I mean those from Thrace) when he says:

His eyes light ii returned back to see

The Country of Thracians populated by those who curb sirepii,

And Mysians who fight each other from close distance. […]

Poseidonios says that Mysians are out of meat products from a particular religious faith, just because they don’t grow animals. They feed with honey, milk and cheese, living alone, as they are called pious men from gods and capnobates.

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There are Thracians which live without girls, they are called Founders. They are considered saints, because of their honor and live without fear. Poet Homer called them “holy milkers of mare, which drink milk, without life w and the most correct people”. They are nicknamed “without life” especially because they live without girls, Homer himself say about widowhood that is only a half life as he called the house of Protesilaos “half” just because he was a widow man.

Mysians are called “fighters from closer distance” because they are undefeated and excellent warriors. In the book of the XIII chapter (the Iliad) it must be writen “Moesians, fighters from closer distance” instead of Mysians (claim Poseidonios) .

But certainly, it is foolhardy to change the text of Homer, considered good across so many years. Indeed, it’s much more believable that they were appointed from the beginning Mysians and now they changed the name in Moesians. The epithet “without life” could be rather in the sense of “widow” than the “unfeeder” or “with houses on carts. […]

And the practice of Pythagoras which say to abstain from meat, remained for them as a dictation from Zamolxis. […]

About the information that tell us that:

“Shortly Deceneu himself was considered as a God, as I said when I talked about Zamolxis. And in a sign of obedience, Getae people were convinced to cut vine and to live without wine […]” we cant specify the exact location for these “Getae” as we dont know if the text make reference to Tarabostes or Comati.

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Taraboste (Dacian nobleman)

Probably a part of Geto-Dacian nobility go negative way, but just because of dirty Greek and Roman influence, or perhaps just because the Geto-Dacians who remained in the fortresses on the Black Sea to administer the territories conquered by the emperor Burebista began this shameful practice, a humiliating practice for the northern tribes of Thracians.

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Dacian Comatus (Capillat)

I’d like to mention that the Odrysians and other southern Thracian tribes, drink wine and take various hallucinogens substances such as magic mushrooms, hemp (weed, cannabis), or even oriental opioids.

All these facts came later, due to influence of Greek and later the Roman influence, and various mythraic influences from Orient.

Therefore, the Geto-Dacians and Moesians, Carpiani and Costobocii, and all the “barbarian” tribes from the north of Danube, diddnt consume alcohol, but only mead as all “barbarians” from North. These Tendencious statements released against our ancestors are just some attacks which have a single intention: degeneration of our great and divine ancestors, the Geto-Dacians, “The most brave and fair Thracian tribe” !

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Thracian warrior

Our polygam enemies, large consumers of alcohol and drugs, seem to be envious on our ancestors and their sacred lives, as well about their divine origin.

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Decebal

Article written by Kogaion

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