The Giants Gog and Magog – Jewish terror

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Gog and Magog figures based on the British mythology, located in the Royal Arcade, Melbourne

The giants, a titanic generation, born from Terra (also known as Gaia), and Uran (Uranus), was a gorgeous, violent and non religious people, having no belief in gods, as being themselves of divine essence.

The giants were by excellency a  mountain’s people (Uran is the sinnonymous  of mountain, or  the Mountain’s Man).

In their war with Zeus, they built mountains over mountains  to get to Olympus, to God’s Palace, the huge Atlas trembled when they attacked, and although the Gods, headed by Zeus, pounced over the Giants, throwing lightings, they still weren’t capable to overcome them, and Hercules himself had to intervene to get them.

The Giants County was on the old Dacia territory, near the saint Oceanos Potamos River (Danube), where, from the same parents, Gaia ans Uran, their bigger brothers, the Titans, were born.

Often, the Romans used comparrations as the fight between Gods, Titans and Giants, with the wars against the Dacians, the Romans calling themselves the winning Gods over Titans, Giants, and then  the Dacians.

The Giants were mentioned also into the Jewish traditions, being known as Gog and Magog, as Ezekiel  mentioned.

In one of his stories, the prophet and the storyteller Ezekiel threatened the Jewish people that Jehova will bring as ruller over them the King Gog from Magog, with his beautiful army, armed with  swords, spears, bolts , shields and helmets.

They, coming from North, riding on horses, will rush as a storm over Israel, to steal and destroy it. They will scour the land in triumph, will trap down the Jews, and then, after fulfilling their mission, will be all destroyed by the anger of The Sky.

Ezekiel’s prophecy referred , no doubt, to the old traditions about the great war between Giants, Titans  and Gods, like when the Giants and Titans chased the gods all the way to Egypt.

The Jeremiah prophet , that lived not long before Ezekiel , talks about the same people, whom he simply calls them as  the “gentium praedo”, that will come from a far away land, from North, from the bottom of the Earth. It will be a courageous people of archers, old and strong, talking a language unknown to the Jews, they are a big people, cruel and ruthless, with their voices moaning like the sea.

They are coming on horses faster than the vultures , all in a row, prepared for big invasion war. They will destroy Jerusalem, like Nabucodonosor, will destroy all of Juda’s strongholds, transforming  the country of the Jews in desert, so that no man will be left in Jerusalem, and all the Jews will end up in slavery.

From here we took the name Lucifer-Luciferis (daystar), which was given to Nabucodonosor by Christians.

With six centuries before Ezekiel, also John the Theologian write about Gog and Magog, in his Book of Revelation.

Speaking about the last time of the humanity, John says that after 1000 years of prison for the serpentine dragon Typhon (Devil, Satan, Set, Ahriman etc) the dragon will be released, he will rebuild his strength and he will lead at war the people of Gog and Magog, which are splitted in four corners of the world and whose number is as the sand of the sea.

The Book of Revelation consider that all pelasgian tribes descended from Gog and Magog, divided in different parts of the world. Those people will run over the face of the Earth and they will siege the beloved city of Jerusalem, and they will be punished by the heavenly fire (God of the Jews, Yahweh).

In The Book of Revelation we can find a copy of the old Jewish traditions, written by the prophets Ezekiel and Jeremiah, with many years before Christianity.

Under the name Gog and Magog, the ancient people understand Getae and Massagetae Thracian tribes.

The names Goga, Gugu, Gugă, Gogă and Gogan are also used today by Romanian peasants, especially in mountain regions.

From the Sibylline Oracles result that the countries where the tribes of Gog and Magog live, are in the northern part of Thrace.

Other traditions about Gog and Magog are presented in the epic legends of the Alexander the Great. The country of the tribes Gog and Magog is described as wild and inhospitable, being subjected to Boreas wind (Northern wind), rain and Northern frost. According to the epic legends of Alexander, the tribes of Gog and Magog invade Southern regions and they closed Alexander in Macedonia, making him prisoner, but Alexander managed to escape and to gather a great army. After that, he will conquer the Northern regions of Gog and Magog (Country of Gog and Magog).

Other ancient legend tell us that tribes of Gog and Magog were under the rule of Popa Ion, a prince who rule also in Asia.

Undoubtedly that here we have an old reminiscence about the adorable Pelasgian King Ianus (Janus, the god of gates, doors, doorways, beginnings and endings) which rule over the Arimi tribe, at the North of Oceanos Potamos (Danube), before moving to Italy. His face is also present on the old coins of Dacia.

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By Kogaion

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A Lost European Culture, Pulled From Obscurity (New York Times)

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Before the glory that was Greece and Rome, even before the first cities of Mesopotamia or temples along the Nile, there lived in the Lower Danube Valley and the Balkan foothills people who were ahead of their time in art, technology and long-distance trade.

For 1,500 years, starting earlier than 5000 B.C., they farmed and built sizable towns, a few with as many as 2,000 dwellings. They mastered large-scale copper smelting, the new technology of the age.

Their graves held an impressive array of exquisite headdresses and necklaces and, in one cemetery, the earliest major assemblage of gold artifacts to be found anywhere in the world.

The striking designs of their pottery speak of the refinement of the culture’s visual language. Until recent discoveries, the most intriguing artifacts were the ubiquitous terracotta “goddess” figurines, originally interpreted as evidence of the spiritual and political power of women in society.

New research, archaeologists and historians say, has broadened understanding of this long overlooked culture, which seemed to have approached the threshold of “civilization” status. Writing had yet to be invented, and so no one knows what the people called themselves. To some scholars, the people and the region are simply Old Europe.

The little-known culture is being rescued from obscurity in an exhibition, “The Lost World of Old Europe: the Danube Valley, 5000-3500 B.C.,” which opened last month at the Institute for the Study of the Ancient World at New York University. More than 250 artifacts from museums in Bulgaria, Moldova and Romania are on display for the first time in the United States. The show will run through April 25.

At its peak, around 4500 B.C., said David W. Anthony, the exhibition’s guest curator, “Old Europe was among the most sophisticated and technologically advanced places in the world” and was developing “many of the political, technological and ideological signs of civilization.”

Dr. Anthony is a professor of anthropology at Hartwick College in Oneonta, N.Y., and author of “The Horse, the Wheel, and Language: How Bronze-Age Riders from the Eurasian Steppes Shaped the Modern World.” Historians suggest that the arrival in southeastern Europe of people from the steppes may have contributed to the collapse of the Old Europe culture by 3500 B.C.

At the exhibition preview, Roger S. Bagnall, director of the institute, confessed that until now “a great many archaeologists had not heard of these Old Europe cultures.” Admiring the colorful ceramics, Dr. Bagnall, a specialist in Egyptian archaeology, remarked that at the time “Egyptians were certainly not making pottery like this.”

A show catalog, published by Princeton University Press, is the first compendium in English of research on Old Europe discoveries. The book, edited by Dr. Anthony, with Jennifer Y. Chi, the institute’s associate director for exhibitions, includes essays by experts from Britain, France, Germany, the United States and the countries where the culture existed.

Dr. Chi said the exhibition reflected the institute’s interest in studying the relationships of well-known cultures and the “underappreciated ones.”

Although excavations over the last century uncovered traces of ancient settlements and the goddess figurines, it was not until local archaeologists in 1972 discovered a large fifth-millennium B.C. cemetery at Varna, Bulgaria, that they began to suspect these were not poor people living in unstructured egalitarian societies. Even then, confined in cold war isolation behind the Iron Curtain, Bulgarians and Romanians were unable to spread their knowledge to the West.

The story now emerging is of pioneer farmers after about 6200 B.C. moving north into Old Europe from Greece and Macedonia, bringing wheat and barley seeds and domesticated cattle and sheep.

They established colonies along the Black Sea and in the river plains and hills, and these evolved into related but somewhat distinct cultures, archaeologists have learned. The settlements maintained close contact through networks of trade in copper and gold and also shared patterns of ceramics.

The Spondylus shell from the Aegean Sea was a special item of trade. Perhaps the shells, used in pendants and bracelets, were symbols of their Aegean ancestors. Other scholars view such long-distance acquisitions as being motivated in part by ideology in which goods are not commodities in the modern sense but rather “valuables,” symbols of status and recognition.

Noting the diffusion of these shells at this time, Michel Louis Seferiades, an anthropologist at the National Center for Scientific Research in France, suspects “the objects were part of a halo of mysteries, an ensemble of beliefs and myths.”

In any event, Dr. Seferiades wrote in the exhibition catalog that the prevalence of the shells suggested the culture had links to “a network of access routes and a social framework of elaborate exchange systems — including bartering, gift exchange and reciprocity.”

Over a wide area of what is now Bulgaria and Romania, the people settled into villages of single- and multiroom houses crowded inside palisades. The houses, some with two stories, were framed in wood with clay-plaster walls and beaten-earth floors. For some reason, the people liked making fired clay models of multilevel dwellings, examples of which are exhibited.

A few towns of the Cucuteni people, a later and apparently robust culture in the north of Old Europe, grew to more than 800 acres, which archaeologists consider larger than any other known human settlements at the time. But excavations have yet to turn up definitive evidence of palaces, temples or large civic buildings. Archaeologists concluded that rituals of belief seemed to be practiced in the homes, where cultic artifacts have been found.

The household pottery decorated in diverse, complex styles suggested the practice of elaborate at-home dining rituals. Huge serving bowls on stands were typical of the culture’s “socializing of food presentation,” Dr. Chi said.

At first, the absence of elite architecture led scholars to assume that Old Europe had little or no hierarchical power structure. This was dispelled by the graves in the Varna cemetery. For two decades after 1972, archaeologists found 310 graves dated to about 4500 B.C. Dr. Anthony said this was “the best evidence for the existence of a clearly distinct upper social and political rank.”

Vladimir Slavchev, a curator at the Varna Regional Museum of History, said the “richness and variety of the Varna grave gifts was a surprise,” even to the Bulgarian archaeologist Ivan Ivanov, who directed the discoveries. “Varna is the oldest cemetery yet found where humans were buried with golden ornaments,” Dr. Slavchev said.

More than 3,000 pieces of gold were found in 62 of the graves, along with copper weapons and tools, and ornaments, necklaces and bracelets of the prized Aegean shells. “The concentration of imported prestige objects in a distinct minority of graves suggest that institutionalized higher ranks did exist,” exhibition curators noted in a text panel accompanying the Varna gold.

Yet it is puzzling that the elite seemed not to indulge in private lives of excess. “The people who donned gold costumes for public events while they were alive,” Dr. Anthony wrote, “went home to fairly ordinary houses.”

Copper, not gold, may have been the main source of Old Europe’s economic success, Dr. Anthony said. As copper smelting developed about 5400 B.C., the Old Europe cultures tapped abundant ores in Bulgaria and what is now Serbia and learned the high-heat technique of extracting pure metallic copper.

Smelted copper, cast as axes, hammered into knife blades and coiled in bracelets, became valuable exports. Old Europe copper pieces have been found in graves along the Volga River, 1,200 miles east of Bulgaria. Archaeologists have recovered more than five tons of pieces from Old Europe sites.

An entire gallery is devoted to the figurines, the more familiar and provocative of the culture’s treasures. They have been found in virtually every Old Europe culture and in several contexts: in graves, house shrines and other possibly “religious spaces.”

One of the best known is the fired clay figure of a seated man, his shoulders bent and hands to his face in apparent contemplation. Called the “Thinker,” the piece and a comparable female figurine were found in a cemetery of the Hamangia culture, in Romania. Were they thinking, or mourning?

Many of the figurines represent women in stylized abstraction, with truncated or elongated bodies and heaping breasts and expansive hips. The explicit sexuality of these figurines invites interpretations relating to earthly and human fertility.

An arresting set of 21 small female figurines, seated in a circle, was found at a pre-Cucuteni village site in northeastern Romania. “It is not difficult to imagine,” said Douglass W. Bailey of San Francisco State University, the Old Europe people “arranging sets of seated figurines into one or several groups of miniature activities, perhaps with the smaller figurines at the feet or even on the laps of the larger, seated ones.”

Others imagined the figurines as the “Council of Goddesses.” In her influential books three decades ago, Marija Gimbutas, an anthropologist at the University of California, Los Angeles, offered these and other so-called Venus figurines as representatives of divinities in cults to a Mother Goddess that reigned in prehistoric Europe.

Although the late Dr. Gimbutas still has an ardent following, many scholars hew to more conservative, nondivine explanations. The power of the objects, Dr. Bailey said, was not in any specific reference to the divine, but in “a shared understanding of group identity.”

As Dr. Bailey wrote in the exhibition catalog, the figurines should perhaps be defined only in terms of their actual appearance: miniature, representational depictions of the human form. He thus “assumed (as is justified by our knowledge of human evolution) that the ability to make, use and understand symbolic objects such as figurines is an ability that is shared by all modern humans and thus is a capability that connects you, me, Neolithic men, women and children, and the Paleolithic painters in caves.”

Or else the “Thinker,” for instance, is the image of you, me, the archaeologists and historians confronted and perplexed by a “lost” culture in southeastern Europe that had quite a go with life back before a single word was written or a wheel turned.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/01/science/01arch.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2

By JOHN NOBLE WILFORD

Published: November 30, 2009
The New York Times

Gigantii Gog si Magog – Spaima evreilor

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Gigantii, o generatie titanica,nascuta din Terra sau Gaia (Gaea) si Uran (Uranus), erau niste oameni superbi, violenti si impii deoarece nu aveau credinta in Zei; ei insisi fiind de esenta divina.

Gigantii formau prin excelenta un popor muntean (Uran=Munteanul, om de la munte).

In razboiul lor cu Zeus ei ridicara munti peste munti ca sa ajunga in Olymp, la palatal lui Zeus; imensul Atlas se cutremura la atacul lor, si cu toate ca Zeii, in frunte cu Zeus se napustira asupra lor, aruncand cu fulgere, tot nu au fost in stare sa-i invinga, doar cu ajutorul lui Hercule reusind Zeii aceasta isprava.

Patria Gigantilor se afla pe teritoriul Daciei vechi, langa raul cel sfant Oceanos Potamos (Dunarea), unde s-au nascut si fratii lor mai mari, Titanii, din aceiasi parinti (Gaia si Uran).

Adeseori, romanii foloseau drept comparative “lupta dintre Zei si Titani+Giganti” cu razboaiele purtate impotriva dacilor, romanii fiind “zeii” biruitori asupra “Titanilor si Gigantilor si asupra dacilor in cele din urma.

Gigantii sunt pomeniti si in traditiile evreilor, figurand sub numele de Gog si Magog, cea mai veche legenda despre Gog si Magog o aflam la Ezechiel.

In una din povestile sale, prorocul si profetul evreilor Ezechiel, ameninta pe evrei ca Iehova va adduce asupra tarii lor pe regele Gog din tara Magog, cu oastea sa cea superba de cai si calareti, inarmati cu sabii, lanci, arcuri , sageti, scuturi si coifuri.

Acestia, venind de la Miazanoapte, calarind pe cai, vor da navala ca o furtuna asupra tarii lui Israel ca sa o pradeze si sa o distruga. Ei vor cutreiera pamantul in triumf, vor duce pe evrei in captivitate, apoi implinindu-si misiunea lor, vor fi distrusi cu totii de mania Cerului.

Profetia lui Ezechiel, avea fara indoiala, in vedere traditiile vechi despre teribilul razboi dintre Giganti si Titani si Zei, cand Gigantii si Titanii urmarisera pe Zei pana in Egipt.

Profetul Ieremia, care traise cu putin inainte de Ezechiel, vorbeste despre acelasi popor, pe care il numeste mai simplu “pradatorul gintilor (praedo gentium)” care va veni dintr-o zona indepartata, din partile de Miazanoapte, de la capatul Pamantului; popor viteaz de calareti arcasi, vechi si puternic, vorbind o limb ape care evreii nu o inteleg.

Ei sunt un popor mare, crud si fara mila, iar vocea lor mugeste ca marea si ei vin pe cai mai iuti decat vulturii, toti insirati, pregatiti de un mare razboi de cotropire.

Ei vor distruge cetatea Ierusalimului (cum a facut si viteazul Nabucodonosor) si vor distruge si toate cetatile intarite ale lui Iuda, prefacand tara evreilor in pustiu incat nu va mai ramane om in Ierusalim, iar evreii vor deveni sclavi cu totii (de unde si numele lui Nabucodonosor de Lucifer-Luceafarul la crestini, care a dus in robire evreii dupa ce a distrus tara lor).

Cu 6 secole in urma lui Ezechiel, de Gog si Magog mai face amintire si Ioan Teologul in Apocalipsa.

Vorbind despre timpurile cele din urma ale lumii,Ioan ne ne spune ca atunci cand se vor implini 1000 de ani de cand a fost inchis intr-un adanc balaurul cel vechi Typhon (Diavolul, Satana, Set, Ahriman etc) atunci acesta va fi dezlegat si iesind din temnita isi va reface puterile si va conduce la razboi pe popoarele Gog si Magog, ce sunt raspandite in cele 4 colturi ale lumii si al caror numar este cat nisipul marii (amintiti-va ce spune Herodot despre neamul Tracilor).

Apocalipsa considera pe Gog si Magog ca popoarele mame din care descindeau toate gintile pelasge, raspandite in diferite parti ale lumii vechi.

Acestia se vor revarsa pe fata Pamantului, vor asedia cetatea cea iubita a Ierusalimului, insa for fi nimiciti de catre focul ceresc, drept pedeapsa.

In Apocalipsa, dupa cum vedem cu usurinta, noi avem doar o simpla varianta prost copiata din traditiile vechi iudaice ale profetilor si prorocilor Ezechiel si Ieremia, traditii mult anterioare crestinismului.

Sub numele de Gog si Magog, cei vechi intelegeau cu deosebire pe Geti si Massageti.

Numele de Goga, Gugu, Guga, Goga si Gogan sunt si azi in uzul taranilor romani,mai cu seama cei de la munte.

Din oracolele sibylliene rezulta ca tarile in care locuiau popoarele Gog si Magog se aflau in partea de nord a Traciei.

Alte traditii despre Gog si Magog sunt prezentate si in legendele epice despre Alexandru cel Mare.

Tara popoarelor numite Gog si Magog e descrisa in naratiunile acestea ca salbatica, neospitaliera, fiind supusa vantului (Boreas), ploilor si gerului de Miazanoapte.

Gintile Gog si Magog, ne spun aceste legende epice, facusera o invazie in partile meridionale. Ele inchise pe Alexandru in Macedonia, facandu-l prizonier, insa Alexandru reusi sa scape, urmand a aduna o oaste mare si pleca spre Miazanoapte unde cucereste tara popoarelor Gog si Magog.

Dupa o alta legenda veche, gintile Gog si Magog se aflau sub dominatia lui Popa Ion,un principe a carui putere se intindea si peste o parte insemnata a Asiei.

Fara indoiala ca aici avem numai o reminescenta despre regele atat de onorat in istoria poporului pelasg, care purta numele de Ianus si care inainte de a trece in Italia, domnise peste Arimi, la nord de Oceanos Potamos; tipul sau este prezentat si pe anumite monede arhaice din Dacia.

Articol scris de Kogaion